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  • shannon B

    So wanting to ssee the whole floor plan, Is there one available by chance

  • Daniel

    Well it seems lovely. $5 says it will have an all-white or off-white interior. Hope I’m wrong…

  • Teddi

    Kenny, am I being marked as spam again? Because my previous comment didn’t post.

  • Eric

    Full floor plans can be found on the main page. Personally the outside seems more impressive then the inside. Really am not very impressed with the use of so much space.

    Would write more but until the goblins settle down don’t want my post eaten.

  • Grrrowler

    This has a lot of potential to be truly stunning. It also has the same amount of potential to be truly hideous. If it’s built – assuming it is ever built – with a well-done traditional interior, it could be amazing. If it ends up with a faux Candy & Candy (would that make it sugar free Candy & Candy?) then it will be a travesty.

    The layout seems generally decent to me. The double staircase is an instant turnoff and tells me that the finishes will probably tend more toward the flashy than the tasteful. I don’t understand the trend in newer large English houses to have no butler’s pantry connecting the dining room and kitchen. It also seems like there should be a dumbwaiter from the catering kitchen upstairs to the main kitchen. I think the master bedroom should have a fireplace, in addition to the one in the suite’s sitting room, but I do like the idea of entering through the sitting room. I’m looking at the plans on a mobile phone and may have missed some details.

    • Teddi

      Bite your tongue. If they hire Candy & Candy I’ll give up on them completely. They can still fix the interior architectural issues and hire the proper interior design group to make it a grand estate. I don’t think Candy & Candy has ever cared about the style of the house (not from what I’ve seen anyway), they’ll ruin this look if they get their hands on it.

  • Eric

    The problem I see with several of these new English “Super Estates” is that once more they fall into the trap of not ‘Really’ building an old estate, but simply a REALLY big house.

    Sure they include servants quarters, but there seems to be no other thought of other various annexes, workshops, servants entrances, exits, that you would want to have in running a huge estate.

    Teddi, me and you have often explored what would really be needed to have such a huge estate, and run it properly. A lot of that was discussed in the Mega Mansion I laid out a while back.

    This thing feels like it has a great deal of potential, but it most likely is going to be wasted…

    Oh yes, am I the only one who would rather have indoor pools underground in a basement? I understand the desire to have a pool you can swim in if it’s raining or even snowing out, but why go through the trouble of building a Huge expensive enclouser, when you can just stick it underground and save the space?

    • Grrrowler

      I personally would rather have an above-ground pool in an enclosure of some type. Preferably the enclosure would have glass walls that can be folded back when needed, and an all-glass ceiling, or at least a massive skylight. Even if the weather isn’t great for swimming outside, I’d much rather have a view of the outdoors than to be stuck in a basement somewhere.

      • Venom

        You are correct, but not for that reason alone. I have friends who have both and the proper way to have an indoor pool is above ground, preferably in a separate wing. A basement pool not only does not have any light, but the smell from the chemicals permeates throughout the house. Also, they cause massive humidity, so you have to run expensive dehumidifier systems or they will cause huge humidity issues.

  • Teddi

    Let’s try this again. This time I’ll have enough sense to copy what I’ve written just in case.

    I got a huge thrill from seeing this (hopefully) soon-to-be-built estate. The grounds look regal and impressive, and there are a lot of parking spaces and garages. Always a big plus.

    If only I hadn’t taken a look at the floorplans. If only, if only, if only.

    Lady Cora said it best: I’m an American. I don’t share your English hatred of comfort.

    This home is 42,000 square feet. Going to cost only a select few will be able to pay. Is there any possible reason to skip or skimp on so many essentials? Are they kidding me with that Master Suite? Kudos to them to at least having the sitting room prior to entering the actual bedchamber. I’ve always had an issue with plans that stick it in the corner of the bedroom.

    The master bath has so many things wrong with it I’ll just leave that alone. But at LEAST they had the foresight to have separate water closets. I suppose that’s something. If only they’d had the sense to do that with the closet as well.

    In response to Grrrowler and Eric. Yes, yes, and yes. Is there some kind of rule against a proper food pantry? And how can an English estate omit a butler’s pantry and a place for the butler to work. I am assuming the area beside that *sigh* kitchen is the food staging area?? And those 2 tiny rooms are a walk in fridge and freezer. It’s England, respect the butler. Give him a proper butler’s pantry etc. Doesn’t help matters that the staff area looks like something only a strict order of nuns would love.

    Once again this seems to be someone who simply wanted to build a mansion but with no clue of how to do it properly. A mansion is not just a large house. Throwing in all the perks one WANTS to have without any consideration of what one NEEDS to have is the problem here. I admit they did seem to put more thought into this than the architect who did Nutbourne, but that master bath has got to be reworked. I once had a condo with a better bathroom than that.

    • Annie

      But… The adjoining room to the right of the main-floor-kitchen… Isn’t it a butler’s pantry??

      • Teddi

        Sorry Annie, I omitted a word from the first reference to the butler’s pantry.
        “Proper”. *…how can an English estate omit a PROPER butler’s pantry…

        It was there in the second reference, but I suppose they stuck that pantry in such a godawful place maybe I didn’t think it much mattered. They had a similar issue with Nutbourne Park, where one had to leave the kitchen go through doors and a hallway to get to the bp/staging area then leave the bp go to the hallway and another set of doors to get to the dining room. It would lead one to believe that either the English don’t use their bp’s or they really don’t care about convenience.

        This bp is in the completely wrong place(s) [it’s either that room beside the back stairs or the corridor with the cabinets just to the right of the kitchen or both]. One should not have to cross over the main hallway from the bp to get to the dining room.

        From what I can tell, guests arriving and gathering in that rotunda foyer/reception hall can look down the hallway and see food and staff going in and out of the dining room and bp. No, No, No. And if any part or all of the bp is actually the space beside those secondary stairs, then the main thoroughfare for the staff goes right through it and that’s all kinds of wrong.

  • Annie

    The simplest decision is to place a door in hallway somewhere between kitchen and elevator.))

  • Teddi

    True, I considered that, but why close off main rooms in the house any more than they already are? It’s only a bandaid for an improperly drafted area of the house. And it still doesn’t solve the problem of the high traffic running through the bp. So the best thing to do is to actually have a properly constructed Food Area.

    That (food area) means the places to eat (breakfast room and dining rooms), the places to store items (food pantry, butler’s pantry, silver vault and/or china/crystal pantry) and the food prep areas (kitchen and staging area) are all properly, harmoniously, conveniently and efficiently constructed and arranged. it isn’t a mansion that’s yet built, so they can fix the issues now instead of trying to incorporate a slap dash quick fix later on.

    I personally also prefer the catering kitchen to be behind the main kitchen on the main floor, and a small kitchen/wok kitchen/kitchenette with dumbwaiter on the basement level if need be. Because if the majority of the formal/informal eating areas and entertaining is done on the main level, I prefer all the major cooking to be done on that level as well, but closed off so the sounds and smells of large scale cooking doesn’t impact on the rest of the house.

    That, however, is a personal preference because that’s what I grew up with. I knew houses that had the secondary kitchens downstairs and they were just an enormous hassle when coordinating between the 2 kitchens during an event.
    Plus it allowed for food to be cooked without messing up your main kitchen if friends/family chose to gather in there to hang out which happened a lot.
    But that isn’t something I care enough about to make a big case about it. But a badly designed butler’s pantry is something I will argue about.

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