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  1. 1

    Daniel

    Such a warm house. Really. Could be 50 below outside and I bet you don’t even need to turn on the heat. Staircase/foyer isn’t nearly big enough. I’d need to rip out the staircase and make it loop about 4 times around the foyer. Pool is measly. Anything less than a 1/2 mile across is a waste of my time.

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    1. 1.1

      Al Robinson

      In other words: “What a waste of 44,234 sq ft.” :-)

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  2. 2

    Last Man Standing

    I was prepared to hate it…but then, I got to admit it has classic and tasteful architecture. It has adequate grounds around it and could be a world class stunner if the right decorating and landscaping was done.
    One of the better ones by far I’ve seen on the site lately. Sorry he got into trouble and lost it.

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  3. 3

    Grrrowler

    Like LMS, I was prepared to hate it. But, after looking at the pics I realized that I totally despise it.

    In all fairness, when taken individually, a lot of the details outside and in the various rooms are nice. But it’s just. too. big. In fact, the foyer isn’t just big, it’s cavernous; the entrance to the Met (both the museum and the opera house) feels homier. I’ve seen reservoirs smaller than the swimming pool. Seating for 100 in the dining room? Maybe Windsor Castle can use this for overflow seating.

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  4. 4

    Venom

    Pretty nice house for the money. Not a bad deal at all. I could not for the life of me begin to figure out what I would do with 45,000 sq.ft though.

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  5. 5

    Joseph

    This would make a nice museum or municipal building. The mansion itself is fairly tasteful and the price considering the size of the house cannot be beaten at $192/sqft. It is surprisingly tasteful but not homey at all.

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  6. 6

    Doug

    Have to say, I’d seen pictures of it on tv and what not, but I actually like it less seeing it through these pictures. I mean Its actually a lot better than what you would expect from a near-bankrupt athlete. The exterior architecture is actually decent, it’s at least trying to be something. That said, it’s still really just a tacky mess. Don’t know how many of you have pools, but I do, and this one makes my head hurt. Pools are endless money pits to begin with, one this size is like a money crater. I was wondering how they kept it clean, but then I realized that there’s simply no landscaping around it anyway. I don’t know if its heated, for that matter I’m not sure if you really need a heated pool down there. I mean I know it’s not “warm” all year round, but I’d imagine its never too cold in the summer that the pool would be unbearable (as can be the case at some times in the NE). But if this thing is heated it explains entirely why he was foreclosed on. The gas bills for heating a pool this size would be so obscene I can’t even think about it, although there’s certainly room for solar panels to heat it.

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  7. 7

    Hunter

    Just found it funny that Doug actually thinks that someone who buys this property is going to give a flying f about how much it costs to maintain the pool. If I’m shelling out 8.5 million for the house, than I sure as hell have got more than enough money for the pool. I love large pools, and think it’s money well spent. I like the estate too, but agree that it needs major interior design and landscaping work. And I’d turn that pool into a rock waterfall/ waterslide / grotto oasis. And I’d add a 9 hole golf course as well.

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    1. 7.1

      Grrrowler

      I used to think that someone who could afford a house that cost $(fill in the blank) could automatically afford it, but that’s not always the case. Buying a house and affording it are two very different things. Holyfield may easily have been able to pay the costs to build this, but the yearly bills of hundreds of thousands of dollars just to maintain the place would surely start to eat away at his net worth.

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    2. 7.2

      Mak

      Well, it’s pretty obvious Evander didn’t have enough money to heat it.

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    3. 7.3

      Venom

      Normally I would agree with you Hunter, but look at what happened to Evander. lol
      Clearly it was a combination of everything, but still, it all adds up. A boat and a pool, two things that will drain you dry, while ironically both have to do with water.

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    4. 7.4

      Doug

      Donald Trump once sold a yacht because it cost too much to fill with gas…and he’s hardly one to be concerned about wasting money on pointless things. Most wealthy people would find it extremely stupid to spend however much money it costs to heat this pool. Because, a) the pool is so ridiculously, unescesarily large and pretentious and b) it’s not like heating a house where you can have multi-zone heating, a pool that size simply WASTES a tremendous amount of fuel simply because the size of it makes it near impossible to heat. Think about how much of the heat would be lost before you could even get the pool to the temperature you want.
      Contrary to popular belief, rich people don’t like wasting money (especially in a fashion like this, where you are almost literally throwing the money out the window.) They do spend lots of money on things that seem wasteful to others, but this is one of those things that is wasteful no matter how you look at it.
      Also, PLENTY of wealthy people are NOT cash rich. They may be “worth” a lot of money, and be able to afford a large home. But many don’t have a tremendously large “cash flow.” Wealthy people tend to have an overwhelming majority of their wealth tied up in their businesses, real estate, restricted stock awards, etc.
      Also, I think you need to check on the cost of natural gas (the most commonly used fuel to heat pools.) to understand just how much money it would cost to heat a pool like this every year, in addition to house and all that. It is INCREDIBLY less efficient to heat a pool than a house.

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      1. 7.4.1

        Nightmoves

        Donald Trump doesn’t have 11 children to 6 women. That is what led to Holyfield’s bankruptcy, not an expensive water or gas bill.

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    5. 7.5

      Teddi

      Sorry Hunter, but there’s a difference between having money and keeping money. That’s why we sit and wonder how it’s possible for so many multimillionaires to end up broke and filing bankruptcy. Just because you have money doesn’t mean it should be squandered indiscriminately.

      Chris Rock said there’s a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Being rich is a fortune you can lose in a bad weekend at Vegas and end up making Old Navy commercials to make ends meet.

      Most other places in the country a 45,000 sf house would be dozens of millions of dollars. Comparatively, this one is bargain basement, so it’s easy for people to think they can afford it. Imagine what it would cost in housekeeping alone, now add repairs. Add taking care of/monitoring 102 acres of land. Plus multiple other structures on the grounds. Including a second house double the size of the average American home. And we haven’t even gotten to property taxes yet and insurance yet.

      Now add a pool bigger in size than a lot of hotel pools. See how easy it would be to have the housing costs run away from you? I don’t see how that estate can be run for under half a mill.

      When gas prices had initially skyrocketed right at the start of the recession, I remember Diddy had started flying commercial again because it was too expensive for him to fuel is jet he said. Rich people don’t all have a need to throw money away foolishly. Smart ones budget just like everyone else.

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  8. 8

    Scott

    Dining room for 100? But what if you have a LARGE dinner party?!

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    1. 8.1

      Teddi

      ROFL, Scott. That was funny

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  9. 9

    mac22

    Very surprised that I actually think the design of this place is attractive. Of course I read the owners name and presumed it would be a nightmare, but…………….it’s not overly garish, nor poorly decorated. Has many very nice features and details. Someone actually hired a team of people who knew when to hold back and edit the design. However, the problem will always be that it is just too damn big. It would be a suitable museum or public municipal court building or library for a decent sized town.

    This place just makes the case for the foolishness of building such massive mansions that seem to be getting the green light from Beverly Hills to the coasts of Florida. Once you build them, they start draining your wealth down the toilet and eventually even a mega-millionaire sports celebrity cant afford to pay the bills. The market for such a property is soo slim, as one commenter stated, sure, many people could buy this place, but few could afford to staff it and maintain it properly. What a money pit………..a surprisingly attractive money pit, but a foolhardy construction project nevertheless. That pool is also a massive resource and energy waste. Is it rally necessary to accommodate 700 people in your family pool?

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    1. 9.1

      Teddi

      I personally, and perhaps too limited in my thinking, cannot see the need for 21 bathrooms. I fell in love with a 25,000 sf house, pictured it as my dream house, and thought even that is too big.
      I have family who have homes over 10,000 sf. But I cannot wrap my brain around doubling or quadrupling that size. But then none have indoor pools or bowling alleys, but even that wouldn’t be responsible for an extra 30k sf. It’s hard to fathom.
      2 kitchens, maids’ quarters, laundry suite, study, office, gym, theater, bar. One even has a ballroom type area for parties and fundraisers and special events. they all get used and all serve purposes that would be hard to forego once you’ve had them, but I’m at a loss to think of much more requirements that would take up 45k sf. 20k or even 30k if I push it. but 45k?

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  10. 10

    Last Man Standing

    A lot of you think the pool is way too big. Well, it’s no larger than the olympic pool at my local municipality. In fact, they have an olympic pool, a diving pool, several large pools, and a kiddy pool. None of which seems to strain the coffers.
    As for being too large, well, that’s personal taste. I love the huge foyer. It adds a sense of majesty. None of the rooms pictured are too garish and with the right furnishings and artwork would be quite elegant.
    It does require a staff to manage, but it’s a mansion, not a large house. It’s just not done yet. The grounds are underdone and the unfurnished rooms seem intimidating. This is an actual estate, not something a cookie cutter developer calls an ‘estate’ where you pick the floor plan you want and can upgrade to granite in the kitchen for an extra fee.
    Other than the location, not that there’s anything particularly wrong with Georgia, I’d take it in a second.

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    1. 10.1

      Doug

      There’s a reason why you almost never hear about even rich people having Olympic sized pools….it’s a humongous waste, unless you’re a municipality, school, gym. etc. You can have a lap pool which is built to Olympic regulations with just one or two lanes, many do.

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      1. 10.1.1

        Last Man Standing

        I don’t know if the reason you “almost never hear” has anything to do with waste, I think it has more to do with lifestyle. Having a pool and using a pool are two different things.
        If I was filthy rich, I’d have a pool that size because the whole family loves swimming. But if a family only swims occasionally, then why have one so large?
        Like the too big thing, it’s a personal lifestyle choice. The fact that it is some kind of horrendous money hole I think is unfounded.

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          Teddi

          I may have to revise my view a little. But I first want to say that there’s a difference between an Olympic sized pool that’s open to the public and one for a private residence. Public pools are larger because they are meant to accommodate, well, the public.

          However, there is a pool in Texas that is the largest private residence pool in the US. And I am not as bothered by that one as this, the reason being this one is just a cement hole filled with water, there’s nothing unique or intriguing or breathtaking or even noteworthy except for it’s size. The one in TX has many different parts to it: kiddie pool, adult pool, slide, swing, eating area, lagoon, and a lazy river like area which snakes around everything and you sit on a raft and go tubing. There’s literally something for everyone and for every age. That one makes more sense to me.

          But I revised my opinion on this pool being an absolute no-no when i re-read the info. If he is entertaining enough to have a dining room that holds a hundred people, then perhaps he needed a pool of this size.

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  11. 11

    Realwiddit

    Ditto LMS, on both post.

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  12. 12

    Otessa Regina Compton

    It really does nothing at all for me. I can see part of it being turned into a welcome center for visitors and tourists inclusive of a cafe, the other part of it could be turned into a local recreational center. I live in GA now, and I can tell you that imagination with color and decor is not vast here, now FL is totally different. Here, in GA the exteriors are basic in ivory, white, browns, copper, some greens, and pale yellows. The Mediterranean, European, and Tropical Styles are rare indeed. I wish they would do things differently, so they could at least exhibit some life.

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      Teddi

      I don’t know if I can agree with you there, Otessa. i’m coming from Florida to Georgia and I feel so happy to not see Mediterranean architecture EVERYWHERE. Never has one style been so completely overused. Every single middle class to upper class home has that styling. The once in a blue moon design difference is such a rarity. At least all the houses here aren’t a carbon copy of each other. The houses in ATL are different to each other are different to the houses in say Savannah. Houses in FTL are the same to PBC are the same to Tampa/Orlando/Naples.

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  13. 13

    Sam

    I neeeeed to see the floorplans to this house! This is so similar in shape and design to what I would plan for my ultimate house it’s unbelievable. The foyer is almost exactly the same and the overall shape of the house, believe it or not, is also the same. If anyone can find floorplans to this place, please let me know!!

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